Combat veteran with SAP clearance gives insights on secret space program
Patrick Riley on Journey to Truth Podcast
A lot of information in this interview, which combines first-hand knowledge with reasonable speculation.
For example, the unreal budgets of Enron and Renaissance Technologies LLC, a hedge fund.
DUMBs. Patrick has been in a few, and says they go 10 kilometers—6.2 miles—deep. Think just think about elevators, air and climate control for every level, not to mention food, water and power.
(Unedited transcript below)
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The following information is from an entirely DIFFERENT source, Robert Vannrox.
About Special Access Programs (SAP), Waived Special Access Programs (W-SAP), Unacknowledged Special Access Programs (U(W)-SAP).
In general, the SAP classification is far more secretive than “Top Secret” and has its own methodology and systems of governance. Perhaps once could best describe this methodology as a compartmentalization method for control of state secrets. (SAP)
In the military, especially in the R&D branches, are even more secretive programs: programs so special, so exclusive, and so secretive that only a very limited number of people can ever have access to these programs. Indeed, the knowledge of these programs is so exclusive that only the very highest levels of leadership know about them.
Often knowledge of these programs are limited to a mere one-to-three people! These programs are called “waived,” which means that reporting of the existence of the program to the working level leadership is restricted and forbidden. Often the “knowledge” germane to these programs is limited to only an alphanumeric designation on the budget spreadsheet, and perhaps an executive summary as prepared by the program director. (W-SAP)
Additionally, some programs are so controversial that the military, and political American leadership, must disavow knowledge of the existence of the programs and membership.
These kinds of programs are called “unacknowledged”, and are denoted by a “U” in front of the SAP. All programs related to extraterrestrial life are established as unacknowledged. These are the highest and most secretive programs that exist in the United States. (W(U)-SAP) https://metallicman.com/laoban4site/majestic-mandated-elf-probe-implantation/
Transcript
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Hey guys welcome back to the show so today we are joined by Patrick Riley. Patrick is a retired 16-year combat veteran from the US Army where he led extensive medical and psychological operations among many other things. and we'll let him actually give do a better job of introducing himself but I saw his interview with Kerry Cassidy on Project Camelot pertaining to the secret space program and his knowledge of what he's seen by bumping shoulders with some of these intelligence agencies and talking to people in the know, essentially, about where these programs lie within the government, and I found it fascinating. He has a level-headed approach and it's important, I think, to bring in people that aren't claiming to have been a part of the programs but claiming to have knowledge of the programs and have military credentials. so I think that's important, and without saying too much I'm going to go ahead and turn it over to you, Patrick, and let you introduce yourself a little better than I did, because you're an inventor of many technologies and overunity designs and and things of that nature. So welcome to the show.
well thank you Tyler and thank you Aaron it's a pleasure to be here uh so as you alluded to I I am a combat veteran. I spent about half my life in the Army and got out once the vaccine mandates came down. but uh during my time in the Army I was uh deployed um many times.
But back in 09 when I was deployed to Iraq I uh was blown up, and uh became an acquired savant. I became a little bit smarter than I was prior to that. and um once that happened I started inventing and I started understanding and seeing systems.
so initially I started with the redesigning motors um because I came back from Iraq and I started building cars from the ground up, from frame up really and uh it was something I was never taught it was something I intrinsically understood because I could see systems as they were meant to function and I knew when something was out of place I knew when something uh was broken or something needed to be added. um It was as if the knowledge was there without me having to ask for it.
um and as I went on from uh working on Motors and whatnot I started to ask some pretty simple questions about how I could do it better and uh I definitely arrived at those answers and would end up inventing a overunity device and I've got a couple other designs about 30 or so inventions I've I've worked on um
and during my time in the Army I I continued on as a uh combat medic I earned my masters in forensic psychology and uh a MBA and I eventually ended up in scops and civil Affairs uh deploying all over southeast Asia for about the last five years of my career until I finally got out. and uh as I knew I was getting out I launched a few businesses on The xrp Ledger so I've got seven different companies and tokens that are hosting Financial Services um very similar to what everyone wants from the qfs is what we're providing on the The xrp Ledger.
yeah that's great and it's amazing and I
guess let's talk about your inventions just for a second because uh something you mentioned on the interviews with
Carri Cassidy is why you decided not to go through with patenting your designs
and why that's so crucial I mean we kind of understand but you have you kind of did your your homework right and you did
some investigations into what could actually happen if you tried to patent these new free Energy Technologies yeah
so it this has been a Crux of our society for the last 150 years but essentially the uh the inventions that
are disruptive are always going to be crushed by the establishment not just
you know government but big money and corporations in general because disruption is not good for their bottom
line but the 1951 patent secrecy act provided the government the means to go
in and slap any uh patent application with a National Defense authorization
act order saying that it is a threat to National Security and effectively you are then put under a Espionage charge if
you are talking about your own intellectual property your own ideas publicly or sharing them so by applying
for a patent you're asking for the government's permission um in my situation I have no interest in asking
the government's permission I worked for them long enough and I know that they are failing the American people in far
too many ways so instead of patenting it and uh instead of trying to profit from
it what I did was I minted it to about a dozen different blockchains as nfts so
those nfts are sucessful and viable by anybody that wants to go and look at the open ledgers of the blockchains and
those nfts represent the designs and some of the detail of what you would need to produce my designs and I hope
that people will produce them I hope that they'll use them to power their homes power their cars mine Bitcoin
whatever it is uh that makes them happy uh but I'm putting it out there and and
it is very disruptive um and all you've got to do is build it and explain why
that's the better option because I guess it's it can't be taken down essentially unless the entire system crashes is that
the way I understand it that's correct so the the government or the powers that be would have to take down the entire
Bitcoin Network the entire ethereum network salana Avalanche uh hyera xrp
Ledger and and I'm forgetting the rest of them right now but there's multiple blockchain ledgers they would have to
completely um dismal in order to take those nfts out of circulation right
right thank you for sharing that so your time spent with the military for
one you mentioned being involved with psychological operations and civil Affairs and
so that's interesting in itself and I have a lot of questions in that Arena but I guess with your involvement you
talked about being overseas a lot and being consistently accused of being CIA bumping shoulders with the intelligence
agencies so along your journey you know meeting these people who had inside knowledge
how did you start discovering that there was a secret program or programs that existed within the government well so
the first thing that really popped out at me was the amount of money that we were spending for specific influences
and that that money was often being channeled through NOS or non-governmental
organizations um and so that was a rather blatant sign that the money
coming from these NOS was actually being managed by intelligence agencies whether that was CIA or um some other threel
alphabet soup agency didn't really matter but the uh the finances
themselves started to speak to me if you will in the way that I was seen the system and as I followed the money it
was very obvious that uh most of the funding going towards things that we
would consider under the purview of the SP was actually under the umbrella of
the Ida and uh federally funded research and development companies so there was
at least a dozen different uh companies and corporations that were completely private from Renaissance Technologies
down to Rand Corporation and um you know the MIT uh advanced technology Labs
working with d things of that nature that it was very obvious to me that that
was where where uh advanced technology was being developed outside of the
legitimate chain of command um from what we would perceive as civilians to be the
legitimate chain of command yeah and you mentioned that the Aerospace industry and the government of
you know the Congress and all that would would be the misdirect you know people would expect the secret space program to
lie within those agencies those corporations organizations but they're I
mean a lot of them might you know be hidden behind shell companies but then there's these other companies that are
involved that people would never suspect and I think that's what's important to focus on is you know where this money is
going and how it's being funneled yeah so a large majority of the funding is produced for the black budget
through the drug trade and the CIA through project gladia washing their
money through the Vatican and the mafia um through you know Southeast Asia in
heroin and opium trades um that entire
business there is no cartel or gang uh that is organized there's no organized
criminal Enterprise on this planet that is not working for under some type of
intelligence agency um whether that's a westernized us or the Mad Or Beijing or
some other um they are all within that structure and all of those illegal
activities are funding what we would call the SSP and that money is floating
up into uh these corporations which are not receiving it necessarily through the
NSF or National Science Foundation not receiving it Through official channels but receiving it through back
channels yeah so I guess through your research of well your in your research
and development of these Technologies I mean a lot of the stuff that we're dealing with now that people like you
are inventing seems to have already been invented years ago decades ago by the
shadow government you could call them and has existed for a very long time on this planet and dating back maybe even
potentially to the late 1800s early 1900s and I was just curious if you could share any knowledge that you had
surrounding that yeah certainly so I definitely agree that most of this has
been around probably greater than 100 Years of course we all know about Nicola Tesla and his many different designs
that were confiscated and hidden from the public um his earthquake machine back in 1896 is uh seemingly actively in
use these days um but from what I developed and and I would say that I'm
capable I'm I'm generally intelligent um but knowing what I can do at my level
with my limited resources gives me a great insight into what the government would have been able to do a 100 years
ago um which should have been greater than what I'm capable of now and today
um and most people don't really have a a conceptual understanding of how far removed a breakaway civilization could
be I'm not saying that I know that it is but the simple opportunity for it to be
there so if we were to look at things like the nuclear bomb the atom bomb which was developed in the
1930s uh while people were still using force and buggy and still listening into a AM radio and uh they had little 9in um
nonv no volume no color TVs um if they were rich and that was the the time
period where we developed the atomic bomb um and by the 1960s by late 1960s
we had the SR71 Blackbird and its six sister uh playing the
xr71 uh which was the space-based equivalent of the sr7 Blackbird U moving
into the the late 80s where we had the other Apollo missions but uh we were in
the height of the the Cold War which was of course largely faked to uh bring in
additional funding and in the height of that cold war where we were supposedly under a nuclear threat including a
nuclear threat from space we allegedly canceled and defunded our space program
um you know of course then rolling out another five or six years till the fall of the Soviet Union so the idea that we
would have canceled or or done such a thing at such a heightened time in
history for the the advancement of Technology especially space-based technology is a little bit corny and
ridiculous um so it's very easy for me to see where we should be much much
farther aheed than we are yeah absolutely I mean we and and
it's not like they aren't us they show us in so many ways I mean you could just pick up like a Popular Mechanics
magazine or a Popular Science magazine and over the years they kind of roll out these Technologies and show you but then
you never see it it never manifest in anything publicly and I do want a caveat
there are good reasons as well as bad reasons for why some of this technology is kept under wraps so I'm not unaware
of the ramifications of what I'm doing by releasing my uh radial design over
Unity device um so when I look at something like that they could be produced for as little as $5,000 and
it's roughly the size of a V8 motor that could go in a car right um now that is
something that does directly threaten National Security and the reason for that is because America with a
population of 340 million is no comparison to China with a population of
1.7 billion and the reality is what keeps America the strongest and the most
secure militarily is geography it's our oceans and it's supply chain
Interruption so Logistics is the only reason that we have not been invaded as a nation uh because the logistical
challenges of transporting an entire uh you know Invasion force over the
Atlantic or over the Pacific from any other nation is untenable currently when
you throw in something like a free energy device that can place a standard motor and you throw it into a amphibious
tank now you have China with the ability to raise an army of a 100 million people
and the ability to crank out enough steel to put them all in something that can cross the ocean with two weeks of
supplies and now you have a very valid realistic threat of a great nation or
great power struggle uh because of that disruptive technology whereas right now
the US mean contains power essentially by our ability to cut off oil anytime
there would be a World War we would bomb the hell out of the Middle East we'd blow up all the oil rigs and we'd set
them on fire and then we would Windle the supply chains and the ability of our
our enemies if you will to project power so there are good reasons for this now
do I think that the people in charge of this technology that have this more advanced technology are thinking about
the American people or considering the potential benefits or the weighing those
risk and rewards I don't I think they're completely incompetent and completely corrupted yeah I would agree with that
so okay if this technology exists it's not on the surface it's underground we
we're aware of the deep underground military bases in that entire network and you've even been in some of those
bases which you can tell us about if you'd like so help paint a picture for our audience how did we get to space
with this technology in the 40s and 50s allegedly so back in the 50s when we had
uh post World War II and we were starting to go against the Soviets which was largely a reaction of the Soviet
side to Operation Paperclip and the US going in and essentially rescuing not
capturing a highlevel Nazi scientists Etc and we brought them to the us we gave them autonomy Authority and no
accountability um so effectively the us became the Nazi threat to the Soviets
and the Soviets were of course developing their own nuclear deterrence uh courtesy of Robert Oppenheimer who
leaked much of his work to them as a as a communist I don't know if everyone knows the history out there but um he
did it as a a means that he thought would prevent the United States from having absolute power over the world and
becoming a a tyrannical uh Empire but uh
I I digress so as the Soviets were developing everything nuclear and nuclear really became very um sexy in
the 50s it became very palatable to the Soviet leadership to put nuclear power
into just about anything whether it was a bulldozer or a sub uh terrain which
was the equivalent of a submarine or uh of course the nuclear submarines and so
when they started to look at going to space um and the US and Russia were both in the nuclear submarine game they were
already looking at how do we survive in an alien environment without oxygen for
30 to 90 days and they were already doing it in nuclear submarines so now
the question wasn't so much how do we build a rocket to put a a spaceship out in orbit the question was within the
Navy within the SSP which is actually the Strategic systems program for
development within the Navy it still exists today it's still called that and that's where SSP moniker kind of turned
into secret space program um but that that entity was looking at how do we
lift an entire nuclear submarine out of the water and get it in space and so
that's when you look at well I'm I'm lifting something very heavy so I need to make it lighter so you're looking at
Helium and you're looking at Compressed Gas helium with in a compressed cylinder
um that is able to you know make it more buoyant compared to there around it now
the larger you make that submarine the lighter you can make it because the more helium compression you
can fit into that submarine before it would turn to liquid so you've got about 11.68 kilograms per cubic meter so you
want to basically scale up so the larger the scale the easier it is to do and
with that you can then put additional balloons or additional um durables on
top of that uh floating submarine that is now full of helium and you can lift
it out of the water from an area that's completely out of sight of the rest of trying eyes and you're able to get
what's basically known as the cigar shaped um you UFO crafts that are known
today and if you were to get that close enough to space where it's lighter you could use Rockets to boost it or you
could use angular momentum to basically throw it into space interesting
so this is why you know we know NASA has invested in helium and I guess that you
know like you said in the previous interviews they fake a lot of stuff nowadays but they're they're just a
cover company they would be the shell company right and and so do you think
that they're investing in helium for these purposes yeah that's exactly what I think they're doing I think they are
launching larger craft and they are using helium to do so to elevate that
craft and then to send it in orbit and I actually I I've designed my own uh space
station that we intend to launch from one of my companies um and I have a a
video of that so I can give the the audience a visual of exactly what I'm talking about yes yeah share that please
and and yeah we can have a visual and then uh I have more questions so we'll
watch this really quick yeah so this video is about five minutes so it's not
all going to be um relevant but uh essentially what I'm doing here is a 500
meter diameter uh toal space station with a 250 meter void in the center it's
100 MERS in um width and I would be compressing helium into this uh for
launch day and then I'm using basically what I call the J fish which is just a
big old balloon and I'm using that balloon to uh pull it towards the moon
optimal conditions from the equator so the moon of course is going to assist a little bit just slightly but every bit
counts uh but it's going to assist in lightening that uh pull of the Earth's
quote unquote gravity I hate the term gravity because it's not what people think it is um but we would be able to
lift this very Lar large uh 5 million pound craft uh into about 40,000 ft and
then these are actually Starship boosters that are shown underneath it with a uh array of 12 different Starship
boosters each with a lifting capacity of 400 uh
tons so now at 40,000 feet we'd be able to fire the boosters uh free and clear
of all population centers and now we would push it out into the lrange point which is the balancing point between the
Earth and the moon uh where it takes the least amount of work for the station to
stay in its orbit right so it's so interesting to me because like essentially you just told us they've
already done something to this capacity but yes what I think is going to happen
on the planet is that we have to do it again because I don't see them ever
technically releasing this stuff to the public anytime soon anyway but if people like you start developing this stuff and
throwing these ideas around right we're affecting the collective Consciousness and and I think we you know the
hundredth monkey effect comes into play and then now a lot of people you you're planting that idea you're planting that
seed for people all over the planet and now we can start doing this in the public domain yeah exactly you can kill a man
but you can't kill an idea and uh where're putting this on the blockchain and making it something that is not able
to be suppressed uh all while not asking the permission of the government of is
yeah the only way that this gets done if anyone is looking to make a profit or to
um you know get the government's permission on a patent it it's kind of that cardinal sin of of greed and pride
uh that will get them I don't need any money from this I just want to see it work right
Aon did you have any questions before we move on um no I was just goingon to say this is I
mean uh so stepen Greer I know you know love him or hate him I think he's doing amazing work still I don't agree with
him and everything but um he's been preaching this for a long time about I
mean he's been trying to work with free energy inventors and trying to get them to to do it the right way because he knows how the system works and that
they're going to get taken out it's going to get squashed because they all want to be like no this is my thing and
I need to release it on my own he's like dude that's not going to happen you understand like he's what you just said
release it on the blockchain release it in a way that it's out there to everyone and it can't be you can't put the the
cat back in the bag at that point and now it's just publicly available to everyone anyone can build it with you
know all the information of how to build it create it it's out there all at once they can't they can't do anything at
that point you know so that's the way to do if you're going to release this stuff it's just a matter figure out how to do
it correctly yeah absolutely and I will just throw this out there for everyone's
kind of information because I think it should be said uh Stephen's Steven Greer's team did reach out to me uh
really but they were also very condescending and basically said that if there's not a working device uh that I
can demonstrate that they're not interested which is fine by me I wasn't actually asking for their help uh but I
would caution everybody that those those individuals who are famous Miss within
this space who are the people you think you're going to go to when you have the answers to get help those are typically
The Gatekeepers they're the honey pods that are going to trap you uh and prevent you from moving forward so no
disrespect to Steven Greer I didn't speak to him directly just his team but uh you know don't look for Steven
Greer's help right well that's that's a great example of like he's saying all the right things but then he's still
being a gatekeeper and absolutely like he's like playing both sides kind of thing right um so it's like listen to
what he's saying and but don't go to him don't look to him as like a savior or a
exactly like like you said be there's a reason why he's so popular and right
he's doing fine you know keep certain people elevated for a reason right um
okay so going back to the underground bases you talked about specifically
being involved in training of of training to fight Subterranean Warfare I
think it was back in like 2018 or somewhere around that time whenever we were seeing the Articles articles coming
out about the military training soldiers to fight underground can you explain why we were doing that and what your
involvement was y so there in 2018 the US Military and this is you know
official public record that about half a billion dollars was spent training 34 out of 36 bcts or Brigade combat teams
on underground mil milary operations uh now this wasn't necessarily saying that we were going
for Dums there's also you know cave networks throughout uh you know Israel throughout the Middle East throughout
Iran um you know Iran is very big on what we would consider DS but they are
essentially um very well-built caves um but we're looking at how to fight in a
constricted environment where oxygen and things like um you know gas or uh a
Seaburn becomes a much larger threat within a confined environment so we were
training largely on how we would communicate um of course if you are underground and you're out of line of
sight you're probably not going to have radio communication it's easy to get lost it's easy to get smoked out uh and
lose visual it's easy to lose um your ability to breathe and it's uh it's easy
to step into movie trap so all of those things were were basically the the items
that we were focusing on so it was military operations and Urban Terrain but
underground um and that does very much change the tactics and the operations of
of any small unit or any large unit um now of course I was doing this training
as as a medic uh and with some operators and uh how we would operate from a Twan
to a fiveman team in an underground uh environment and and that's very different from what most
of the bcts and Brigade combat teams would have been doing as as far as large unit large scale
operations um and I did see some of these um structures or some of these
bases uh throughout my time in Southeast Asia um some of them were very old and
some of them were very recent of course um you know most of what I did with
civil Affairs and scops would still be classified and I am on the sfp2 for another uh about 20 years and just
retired in uh late 2022 so I have some time before I would even be able to
consider sharing too many details but uh it's a thing it exists um every nation
has them there's tens of thousands of them globally and it is the future of of
warfare because frankly uh bunker Busters and and everything else makes
everything on the surface nearly useless as far as defensive positions
go right so you were actually training as a as a medic and what you would do in
warlike scenarios on the ground as a medic that's correct um you know so
things like just adding Wheels to a stretcher make a a big difference in an underground
environment right interesting so whenever you okay in your time in the
military and you know like I said interacting with intelligence agencies
um did you come across people that shared information with you pertaining to this subject um like specifically
maybe about the secret space program or or anything of that nature that we're just not supposed to know about did they
like did they talk about it openly or was this something that was not really there there was times when I would catch
the the names of vessels or things that were in briefings that I wasn't necessarily read in on but uh I was
certainly aware that the Helen Cotter and the lame are uh you know specific vessels that are not within the uh
ocean-based Navy of the United States uh and I was uh I was very much aware that
they were talking about things that were to to put a pun on it above my head um
so although I can certainly say these things were being discussed I wasn't
privy to the large majority of the information everything's comp departmentalized and everything is on a
need to know a basis um I did have a a situation in which I I met with an
individual in in one of the Southeast Asian countries and he wanted to whistleblow to me and uh he brought out
a a shoe box to show me some some pictures and uh what he had for evidence
to basically blow the whistle and uh within that was a a mask that appeared
to be a very high technology origin that was not only a mask but also still
seemed to be a living biological technology as I held it uh
still warm to the touch as if I was touching someone's face um very very
strange very bizarre do I know that it belonged to an alien absolutely not I
don't know that um but it was certainly bizarre enough for me to uh be taken AB by it and you mentioned
when you talked about this and with car Cassidy you mentioned seeing the imprint on the inside of the mask and it didn't
look necessarily human it did not look human the uh the lenses within it that were humanized to that to the front
appeared to be lenses for something not human in the back and the imprint
appeared to be scales of some sort or a grid that was in a um you know know a
triangular and hexagonal paddings so a reptilian possibly
potentially yeah yeah I mean that makes a lot of sense to me you know we've
discussed this CIA mask a lot on this show and you know they've came out they
so much has came out themselves and you know demonstrated these masks and that was de that was a long time ago to it's
it's not a stretch of the imagination to think that they have a biological living organism a mask that literally would act
and function like the human body yeah they they certainly could and if if they
have technology at that level it's easily a hundred years beyond anything else I had ever seen um it was very very
Advanced wow see that's fascinating to me I because I think I would guess that
a lot of the world leaders and royal family would be wearing masks like that if if I were the guess I don't know but
um so as far as your knowledge of like
when I guess World War II was when all this technology started you know Germany was involved first right and then and
then you mentioned that Operation Paperclip was more of a rescue operation and I've never heard anyone say that
before so I was wondering if you could expand that it was so the the rild bank
of the United States States and the Federal Reserve that was of course the the creature from Jackal Island uh the
Rothchilds and Rockefellers and JP Morgans and um that that same group of
men also created the Council of foreign relations and as the council for
relations went on to found the uh SSO which would become the CIA they
effectively had full control and ownership through the FED of that intelligence agency simult mously Roth
Charles Rockefeller JP Morgan and uh Prescott Bush Henry Ford were the same
group of men that were funding and founded the Nazi party of Germany in
1933 you could actually go to Manhattan to see the Nazi headquarters and it was
part of a Union Pacific Bank under Prescott Bush um of course uh Bush
Junior's uh grandfather um even the the Skull and Bones logo on the
Nazi SS officer caps came from the Skull and Bones of Yale University which Prescott Bush was a part of so this was
a a lending of the tradition to the Nazi party uh not the other way around so now
as that happened of course these Bankers these cabal if you will individuals um
had invested a lot of money in the development of Nazi Germany and so in their mindset they owned the assets and
resources of Germany as Germany would eventually lose the war now America did
not defeat uh the Nazis in World War II Russia effectively defeated Germany
America went in to rescue what was the property of the higher command which was
the Rothchild Rockefellers Fords bushes Etc uh Allan doues if if that name
doesn't ring a bell so that was essentially the the recast of of the
image after Nazi Germany failed to achieve the mission that those banking cartels wanted it to
achieve wow so yeah that's that's an interesting take on it and I agree that
we we didn't win the war technically and you know the paperclip scientists were embedded in the entire infrastructure
over here I mean every Corp ation every organization and so I guess you know
we've heard tales of the Nazis going to Antarctica and like starting breeding
programs essentially um to you know create or maintain the pure blood of
Aran race and all that stuff but you mentioned something in a previous interview about these Breakaway civilizations and underground bases
potentially having breeding programs that would essentially fuel the SSP
right and fuel programs they need people but the people can't be connected to the surface world can you elaborate on that
yeah well I'm just thinking of it from a extrapolation of if if we were to say we
created a a secret organization between the three of us and that organization
has technology but we are not um we're not trying to risk our technological
superiority as we attempt to expand and do what every other human civilization
has ever done in history is is to expand and to explore and to try to make the most out of its advantages so the as the
CIA was uh you know under the Nazis and all of this and and mad and Israel is
actually founded by by Nazi Germany and the same group of people and the Roth Childs and Etc um but this entire
organization started to take to uh blackmail as a way to keep it secret and
as a way to keep their secret they initially were doing things like the Playboy Mansion which was you know
tunneled under to the Getty museum which was Joseph P goal's um and it was uh you
know this ability to Blackmail people in the know with cheating on their wives or
things like that but eventually that wasn't enough it needed to be very concrete and effectively these people
lost empathy for Humanity somewhere along the way and it emerged from
playboard bunnies into uh you know teenagers and eventually into children
and then from that you know the the only truly concrete way to make sure somebody is keeping a secret is to have something
so damning that it's completely unforgivable so that means that at some point my understanding is it became the
custom that in order for a high value individual uh whether that's a
politician or somebody that's maybe a famous musician even um in order for
them to be read in on the secret of this Society they had to essentially rape and
murder a minor to become a part of the club now that was a natural progression
over the years things like MKUltra and things like um you know black CIS and
all all the other messed up things that our government was already doing to people and to Children um so those
experimentations eventually became the way that they could keep people in check
and in line um so with that kind of secrecy and with that kind of blackmail
on large amounts of individuals that any kind of secrecy is going to breed corruption because
there's no accountability within that secrecy so it got even worse as as things going on and of course we know
you know Hillary Clinton is running the entire cocaine cartels of of Colombia right now and things of that nature and
human trafficking out of Haiti and and so many things that I can fully support and fully defend um but these are it's
now a motive saand day so the Breakaway civilization of course some of those
children are going to be used and killed but you're also going to want to colonize if you're able to go
Interstellar if you're able would go to another planet you're going to want to create colonies um out there that are
not going to conflict with your way of thought or the way you control or command That Base so the easiest way for
them to do that would be to breed children into those programs or into those colonies uh from a very young age
and then if they needed to you know dilute that gene pool so that they wouldn't have inbreeding they would need
more children so I think that there's a a case to be made that it's uh it's the
Natural Evolution of what we can verify and based on the observation of data
points today we can strongly suggest or suspect that that is the the truth of
the situation so when I look at Epstein and some of the highlevel scientists
that he was bringing out to Epstein Island um you know guys like Stephen Hawking who was of course in Mobile um
or you know down to MIT lab people or many of the people you can find within the FF frc's or the former CEO of
Renaissance Technologies um these highlevel scientists their only reason to be part
of that same group with politicians and actors is if well they were working on
something um and that something had a stay very secret because we know this was a blackmail oper now people are
probably thinking why actors why are why is P Diddy out there on on this list and why uh why are the famous people out
there well it's probably because it's run in a military Manner and it's run
very similar to what we do with the Uso currently here so if you have officers
up there in orbit or out on other worlds that are you know probably somewhat
homesake wouldn't you if you have all the moneyy and all the corruption in the world
somebody out there is a a fan of Beyonce and they're going to get Beyonce to go
to this colony and do a concert but she's got to join the club right they're gonna get P Diddy but he's got to join
the club and then of course you have the control of the media and you have the control of every news agency and you have the control of our elections and
and other things that all just naturally fall under this umbrella of influence
wow that's that's an an amazing analysis is is or extrapolation as you would say
of what could possibly be happening right now and so you're saying that you know a lot of the people that were
brought to Epstein Island that went to Epstein island did it against their will essentially they were compromised there
um you know you would probably only have to forcibly compromise 10 to 20% whereas
the other 80 to 90% are probably willing to do whatever it takes to attain power
because power and secrecy attracts Psychopaths and sociopaths who are more than willing to do those things um we
right we know beyond any reason that the large majority of our politicians are
morally flexible and uh completely amoral and completely aeic um and they
do what will get them reelected or get them further down the halls of power and I don't think uh I don't think it's a
stretch at all to say that the majority of our politicians the majority of our
Congress is compromised right yeah I it's not a stretch I mean that's likely the case
right I mean it is in some cases very obvious so these children that go missing every year you explained what
you think happens to them but so let's paint a picture you think they would go on the ground and be raised in a
military base um and essentially mind controlled and groomed so they never never question authority and they don't
know any different they could be the perfect Soldier slave whatever you think that's the case so you would want them
compliance so that may be happening of course I I don't know this um but uh you
would also want them untraceable so we would need to look closer at things like
our social services system which as much as 60% of our children in the United
States within Social Service are trafficked According to some sources um
and you got to look at the kids who have no connections whatsoever of course the migrants um coming over the Border who
you know their parents are dead or something of that nature but there are very few children um so actually in 2011
I was working on Joint Task Force North uh on the border to uh New Mexico and
Chihuahua province in northern Mexico and yes that's a real Province if you're if you're a gringo I'm sorry Chua
um so just cross the border from Columbus New Mexico and in 2011 we found
about 11 Mass Graves uh totaling about 6,000 bodies that had been deposited
over a period of about five years um there are public sources on this y' all
can go and look it up and we ended up arresting the sheriff's department for assisting in in guns and drugs
trafficking but um my the point I'm getting at is that
those bodies were not only a few times the population of palus the nearest town
in Mexico um that had been killed within those Mass Graves but there were also
largely adults there was very few teenagers that were um within those
remains and that told me that uh it was very statistically unlikely that this
number of adults had been killed that very few of them would have had any
children uh into to or traveling with them that might have been killed as well so it
makes sense that the parents are killed and the children are then
disappear I mean that's such it's horrible to think of that but that's the reality of the situation I mean that
needs to be discussed because you know a lot of people don't like when we talk about certain things because they think
we're like you know bathing in those negative frequencies but if people don't understand they're going to be unknown
inly subconsciously complicit in this stuff by supporting certain companies
and agendas unknowing unbounce to them so there's a big difference between shining the light on the darkness and
and bathing in the energy of the darkness and and dwelling in that energy it's not the same thing right
abely absolutely that's what we try to do we try to shine a light on it and then and then dwell in the energy of
love and you know right truth so let's talk about psychological
operations and Flat Earth and and I mean in a nutshell I
mean I haven't heard you say anything about the the planet being flat in any of this discussion of anything you've
discovered researched experienced yourself and you've been a part of the psychological operations and you
understand that it is very much Warfare what do you think is going on with this flat Earth theory well I'm I'm
not a supporter of the Flat Earth are um I did do a a couple hour long debate
with wit it gets it Austin wit it who's one of the bigger Flat Earth uh Debaters
out there um and I support a um Global spheroid uh model however um I'm also
really a subscriber to the schrdinger Earth um and I kind of I take Socrates
to heart which is you know true wisdom comes from knowing that I know nothing right I as I look at things like
Universal Consciousness and our Consciousness truly shaping reality
which is something I hope to do my doctoral dissertation on um I I do think
that the majority of humanity the 100th monkey as who said U believing or
suspecting that the Earth is flat at one point in history may well have made at
that point in history the Earth was flat and now there is a
large contingent that thinks it's round and a contingent that thinks it's flat
and by by the string theory laws and by uh you know Multiverse and uh quantum
physics laws of schroen here we we would be able to say the Earth is both flat
and round it's either or until it is proven to be one or the other
irreversibly right now don't think that uh NASA is a reliable source by any means I don't think that Einstein is a
reliable source by any means he's a frog for those who don't know um so in that
regard there's room for debate and I can certainly have a respectful discussion
with flat earthers about why I don't think uh Flat Earth is a practical model
but uh nonetheless if that's their idea if that's what they want to believe then
hey you know more power to them right we interviewed a guy Daryl James you may or
may not be familiar with him he's former uh US Navy and he was made aware by his
executive officer this is what he says right everything we're just taking people's word for it at this point but
he was told by his executive officer that the Flat Earth scop was created by Michael aino in 1980 who was the head of
psychological operations in the military at the time and he said that anyone who
is um promoting Flat Earth or or sharing Flat Earth videos is either intentionally deceiving or
unintentionally deceiving they don't know that they're deceiving but they've been tricked or manipulated into
believing this and he asked why would they do this and he said the Satanist love confusion and bottom line it's to
confuse people well there's a there's a psychological benefit to convincing the
population that there is a flat Earth there's not much benefit to convincing them that it is a globe Earth if it is
not a globe Earth um so in that sense I I could certainly see it being a Kino
for those who don't know much about Michael aino he was a former lieutenant colonel in Army scops who wrote mind war
and and went on to form the Temple of set and and things of that nature um the
other co-author of M war was um theele who later became General theele who
confirmed the existence of the Q operation s uh and former Commander 351st my former unit so I'm very
familiar with aino and his work of course um it's kind of required reading for us and right my old
profession so that you mentioned the Q operations and that's something that you
know we've we've actually did a 4-Hour webinar we did a deep dive I mean we dug up everything we could to either
disprove or prove that this was a real operation what are your thoughts on it I
certainly think it was a real operation uh I discovered it personally by researching things that I was actively
doing well working in operations uh in the military so those operations that
many were classified led me to research which led me directly to Q uh so there
was certainly validity within it I don't necessarily know that all of it's valid
I don't personally subscribed to a a trump savior com I I think that he's got quite a bit of
flaws that uh are unfortunate um but that said I I do
think there is certainly something behind Q yeah I agree that I mean that's
the conclusion we came to as well there was just too much to ignore I mean if you're going to look at it really that
it was just kind of overwhelming in a way and then you know the rabbit holes that you would find yourself down just
by reading the Q drops uh and there's a Time aspect there's a time
travel slash time viewing aspect to it where they would know years in advance
exactly what's going to happen exactly the time exactly the date like in the
exact way and then like and there was definitely a link with Trump and whatever was going on in this you could
call them the white hats or whatever uh where Q would post like the exact phrase
that Trump would say or the at the exact Tim stamp and it's in the cupo and all these things are like it's it's like and
Q even said it's in his own posts at what point is it Ma is um is
mathematically impossible you know to be a coincidence right and it's like that
point was gone a long long time ago as far as I'm concerned with everything I've seen um there's definitely
something going on for sure now what exactly is going on I don't know but I know it seems to be exposing the
corruption and the evil and that can only be a good thing in my mind and it seems to be fighting it so yeah and the
uh the interview right with Carrie Cassidy on uh my technology inventions
the four technologies that I released publicly combined together do actually
enable information to be sent uh backwards in time and it would make
something like Q or Mr pool or things of that nature theoretically possible but
um within those theories within that technology that I I demonstrate I don't want to go on about it because it'll
take hours here but it it does prove that that is very much possible through FTL or faster than
light travel in conjunction with Fantom entanglement to send information from
the past or from the present to the Past um so yeah yeah I was gonna ask you what
you thought of time travel technology and and you know the secret space program you know that's we can make
sense of that but when we bring time travel into it I mean it's kind of hand hand in hand if if we're if we're going to believe one half of it the other half
we have to there re stands reason to believe that time travel is involved as well so in a nutshell the the four
Technologies I released there's the overunity device there's a ionic Drive circuit which is basically a a rocket
engine right so we've got a a motor generating electricity we've got an electric rocket engine we've got Quantum
entangle communication so it's instantaneous communication across time and space and you've got faster than
travel so what that will enable is if we were to build a rocket that I call the th rocket the the god of knowledge um
then we would be able to send that rocket out 10 light years away and as the light that was touching the Earth 10
years ago is reaching that rocket uh we are collecting that and we are viewing
it basically we'd be able to create a four-dimensional Google Earth where we could rewind time looking at any point
on the earth as we see it but what we can also do is we can now put on a brain
computer interface we are reading your theta waves and beta waves and all those things and we're reading the the
physical biological structure within your brain right now and as we're looking at you 10 years ago and we're
communicating it instantaneously because we have Quantum entangled communication we can also say here's the
temperature here's the biological physical structures that were present in your brain 10 years ago here is the
frequency and here's the vibration and now we can walk up a quantum entanglement of your brain in the
current time to your brain in the past and now the thoughts that you're having
today are are being in some form communicated to yourself in the past 10
years ago uh the idea that time is linear is completely um disproven at
this point time is is a solid everything that has happening is happening and will
happen is a solid and it is a current thing it's only our perception of
movement through time and space that allows us to perceive time exactly right
yeah yeah I mean it's you know time is and on one hand time isn't elud on
another hand we're all living by the clock every day and no matter whether you want to believe it or not and I I
read I read books on time travel and one of the things that I came across said uh time is an illusion but on Earth it's
real and it makes sense because it is linear
here the way we perceive it but that doesn't mean like zoomed out that there's much more to it right exactly so
we are stuck in the third dimension as a as a civilian species currently um but
what I what I was talking about with my technology is once we do have that ability to communicate with ourselves in
the past now we've broken that fourth wall we've broken into the fourth dimension of time because now you could
very possibly know all all of the span of your life from a very early age and
make choices within that uh and that makes Humanity a fourth dimensional species at that point I love that yeah
yeah so I mean I would I would not be opposed to doing a part two where we really get into your Technologies
because I'm fascinated in all of it so far from what I've heard but I want to
rewind a little bit you mentioned Renaissance Technologies earlier and never really I'm not familiar with that
and I was wondering if you could explain who they so so there's only a few companies out there with financials that
are so beyond the scale that they were completely unexplainable things like FTX
or uh Enron um and Renaissance Technologies is right up there with
those uh in that category uh however the uh the former CEO of Renaissance
Technologies who was on epin Island and one of Epstein's uh best friends came
out of an organization called Ida Ida is the institute for defense analysis uh
which is a completely almost unheard of organization that employs thousands of
doctorate level physicists and Engineers um now this is of course Ida
is going to create uh taskings or uh contracts from within Ida that's we're
talking a thousand different doctors creating uh requests for Technologies to be developed and built that are then
tked out to FF frc's or federally funded research companies so of course that's
from 1,000 and we imagine how many must be working on each of those requests um
and how many requests are being put out by each of those scientist per year we start to see a picture where okay well
here's a governmental organization that is completely unheard of that is being
uh funded almost completely off the books all of its taskings go to civilian
companies that nobody ever thinks about or knows of and it's all tied into
Epstein but also we're looking at up to a 100,000 different requests and
contracts being made per year for Technologies and advancements that we
never hear about uh so that is a very substantial organization and to think
that there isn't some sort of secret space program within that structure to
me would be Insanity right yeah exactly thank you for saying that this kind of a
side note what are your thoughts there's a lot of people out there claiming not a lot but I've heard claims that the world
debt has been paid off and what we see you know projected to us on these websites and stuff is all an illusion
just to create that fear right and keep in that hamster wheel what are your thoughts on that as a possibility you
know I I don't believe in fairy tales and I wish I was wrong um I would love for for the nissar Jara people to be
correct I would love for all the debt to be gone and expunged and uh all those
things um however I I'm a practical um person and I also I'm typically a
skeptic instead of wasting time wishing that one day just you know we'll all be
rich and all the debts gone away and somehow for the first time in history the powers that be just decided to do
something great and amazing for all the people instead of being corrupt and controlling like they've always been um
I'm not counting on that day coming so instead I built a economic system within
my companies that can do all the things that the people who want Newar Gara and
qfs um would like it to do so I'm building on I'm not waiting right I love
that I I think that's the Practical approach honestly um if if we're just to
sit around and wait for anything that we're apparently supposed to be that's supposed to be coming I mean what do you
do you're just sitting there like you're not you're complacent you you're just a zombie you're not doing
anything I'm a faithful kind of guy and and create because this is
exactly what Humanity needs to do is create systems that make the old ones obsolete instead of trying to fix the
old systems that are they're not broken they're designed that way they're working exactly how they're designed
that's the misconception I hear oh it's broken it's no it's it's working perfectly how it was designed and that
shows you the evil that's behind these systems and the the real agenda that's going on it's not like it's not like
it's not really incompetence and ineptness it's it's uh there might be a lot of that on more of the surface level
but really at the at the layers that are controlling things it's designed perfectly as as enslavement and and the
all the technology that should be used to benefit in free humanity is being used instead to enslave and harm
humanity and and this needs to this needs to stop but it's like what we need to do is what you're doing is create
systems create technology that will free Humanity outside create your own system basically and then stop supporting that
system if enough people can like we start waking up to what's going on that's what I think the phase we're in now is kind
of like the Great Awakening phase of like what we've been in for a long time that we've been asleep to for a long
time and now we have to make a choice through our own free will do we want to keep supporting that or do we want to
create something else and support something else and uh things like what you're doing is a perfect example of
that well thank you I'll just say you know I'm I'm no one's Savior and Trump
is no one's savior there's there's only one Savior and you're probably not going to meet him in this life so uh you know
do the best he can while you're here right and you know or you are your own
savior right yeah I would say we are all our own right we're we're the ones that are going to pull ourselves out of this
mess um there's a Divine yeah intelligence this has been great I
appreciate you um sharing your time with us and sharing all of your knowledge and information is there anything else we
didn't cover that you like to talk about that you'd like our audience to know uh well I could go on forever so you'd have
to let me know okay well I guess I will ask you one more question so in your time in the military so you started as a
combat combat medic and then went into psychological operations uh yes that
that's correct so uh essentially I was running an emergency department in uh tripler Army Medical Center in in Wahoo
Hawaii and uh I was the senior NCO medic um in charge of all the military
personnel within that emergency department uh and an order came down saying that they needed a medic in uh a
civil Affairs assistance Mission and uh it had to be E6 or above and I was the
only one that fit the bill so I wasn't like I was uh um specifically special or anything yet it was just more
circumstance um and then I I started doing the missions and they just kind of realized I was more capable than what
they'd seen previously from other people attached to them and and assigned to them and they wanted to keep me so
that's just kind of how that went right so whenever you're talking about things and
and you know that guy who wanted to blow the whistle to you um things that would require a specific security clearance um
you know the need to know type of information but you seem to have been talking with people
in of that caliper what what how was that possible so there was a lot of people
that assumed my clearance was probably higher than it was I I did have a secret clearance and I did have uh sap or
special Access program uh information but that was typically very compartmentalized however when you're on
these type of missions and you're in civilians with a beard and carrying an MP5 in a laptop Bay uh people tend to
just talk to you and they talk a little more freely than they probably should um because they don't know who you are
and and quite often it was assumed that everyone in the room was was completely
keyed in wow that's I mean that's interesting I mean you find yourself in
these situations yeah at at what point like did this information shock you like
or did you kind of understand that it was all happening before you even joined the military yeah I mean I joined as 17
so I I was pretty na back then but um by the time I I ended up in these briefings
and things of that nature it it was not a surprise to me uh whatsoever um more
more so I was surprised by the lack of competence of the stand of government um
within the public facing sphere Rob so
you mentioned being at underground bases at certain points are you able to share
which bases you were at no no I I can't share locations or which bases I I have
been in uh quite a few um and for various different
purposes can you give us an idea on how deep some of these bases run so uh
typically 10 kilometers for a large in uh a large complex or um facility 10
kilometers is basically the um the universally agreed upon safe zone of
things will not reach you when nukes are going off over your head um if you are
10 km under some were more shallow than that some uh you know just started at
surface and progress down right interesting yeah I would imagine I mean
I would imagine that they're probably even deeper than that in some cases I'm
sure there probably are of course there's challenges at that kind of depth
uh as far as heat and and the mantle and and things of that the engineering challenges must be
Monumental and I of course put some thought into that as well and the only way that they're possibly building these
is with nuclear boring machines or plasma boring machines right so it's
it's very impressive I'll say that so have you come across an ancient tunnel
system that looked like it was built by a previous civilization I have been in two that I
would say were unlikely to have been built uh within the last Millennium
interesting yeah I've heard people talk about that um I mean I don't know we can I can just
throw questions at you all night but uh I guess we'll start wrapping this up um
thank you so much can you please let our audience know where they can find you we'll share all your links in the description but let our audience know
for the listeners um where they can find you and how they can follow your work y so the easiest place to find me is on
Twitter at plr 2024 I am shadowban because e L is a
uh he's not an honest man but uh I'm I'm on there and uh you'll have to search me
directly okay and then do you have a website or do you have um anything like
that you'd like to so I have about five different websites uh all for my companies um they're not necessarily
relevant to what I'm talking about here but the the other easier way to reach me
is by email Patrick Reaper final great thank you well like I said this has been
incredible I mean we really I love your approach on all this information uh I
it's so refreshing to talk to somebody in your position instead of somebody claiming to have memories of these
programs which is's nothing wrong with it but we've we've done that and I I love that people are coming forward now
and and we're getting new new Intel essentially I mean you know we we know about this stuff but to
actually hear it from the horse's mouth and people who have talked to people and know people from within these
organizations and intelligence agencies uh it's it changes the game so thank you
yeah of course and uh you know I'm a very skeptical person so there's other people out there and I know car wanted
to ask me about you know a few dozen other people and it's not that uh it's
not that I don't believe them and it's not that I do it's that I I of course can't substantiate anybody else's claims
so um I typically very cautious in in what I um what I say and what I would
support um but I I do challenge the audience to think of it more from a practical possibility standpoint uh and
measure it as far as what was possible and when was it possible and then drill
down on on the finances and I think you'll find what most of your audience would probably looking for when they go
looking for secret space program right I agree right and for and for anyone who's
uh you know knows a lot of the UFO information you know about Roswell and all the crashes that have been found and
all the reverse engineering of ET technology that's been done it's kind of like that's where I it wasn't much of a
leap for me when I discovered the secret space front because I'd already I'd already researched all that information
I'm like well yeah of course they have the technology to create space fleets and go like they've reverse engineered
all these all these ET all this ET technology or some of it that's been given to us you know maybe and and you
know the whole history of the Nazis and what they did with that you know and then we kind of like caught up to them and um frankly there's just so much
going on in that realm of course the ssp's real to me it would be very sad if we'd uh spent trillions of dollars on a
black budget and hadn't achieved Interstellar travel right I would say that would be very pathetic of the
government's that alone right exactly so really quick I did want to ask you this
earlier and I forgot thoughts on Gary McKinnon the NASA hack Gary McKinnon um
and what he what he found and one of the things that confused people was that
there there was names of vessels that seemed to match names of vessels that we
had as far as aircraft carriers and Navy destroyers and like and people had a
problem with two ships being named the same thing um but I think you maybe
explained that why this could be in the previous it makes perfect sense to me um
because if you create two and somebody comes uh later on and they say oh I was stationed on the the
Eisenhower okay that that can mean two different things right so there's us uh
Naval vessels and there's usss which is the United States
spaceship um which sometimes share the same moniker and that makes it a lot
easier for the government to get away with things a lot easier to hide it but it also makes it a lot easier to cover
it up and to cover the budgeting and the resupply um I'm sure if we we look into
the trillions of dollars the Pentagon loses every year I'm sure quite a bit of it is probably the resupply of
Provisions to different Naval vessels that probably are taking more than double what they actually need in terms
of food and sustainment and Logistics so uh the truth is always in the the fine
print of the following the finances breaking down the logistical uh elements
of what's been happening right so did you look into the Gary McKinnon hack I I
have looked into the Gary mckinn and hack as far as I can tell it's completely legitimate I have no reason
to think otherwise right I agree right and if you listen to what he said he
found you know he's like yeah offworld fleets uh you know and a cigar shaped
cigar shaped craft like they showed the C like he's seeing all this stuff that's pointing to Breakaway offworld space
fleets Tey perfect sense um cigar shaped craft as is our designs would make
perfect sense coming from a nuclear submarine Fleet but also you have angular momentum and gyroscopic
instability so essentially if you think of a a washing machine and you throw a
pair of boots in it and it starts to um starts to shake right right now imagine
if you did that with a gyroscope but instead of spinning around with a a pair
of boots you make it so that there's a a gyroscopic instability in a single
Direction and now it's it's diametrically pulling that device especially if you
have a few of those gyroscopes rotating and then pulling in One Direction uh and
now you would be able to steer something like tube shaped cigar so it's an ideal
design wow interesting there you go okay now I guess we're gonna wrap it
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