Conversation With a High-Ranking Freemason

Part 4

(Continuted from Part 3)

The executive director of Romania’s Department Zero, Cezar Brad, continues his conversation with Bilderberger Signore Massini, of the Black Nobility of Venice. Massini explains how the Brotherhood controls mankind through economic dependence, media and information control, psychotropic drugs, technological mind control, population control through research into viruses, the drafting of constitutions, armed conflicts, banking, and international bodies such as NATO and the UN.

The conversation took place in May 2002 and was published in 2003 in Transylvanian Sunrise, by Radu Cinamar.

“Dependence automatically triggers a sort of enslavement or limitation, and we need people to be as limited and mechanical as possible in their actions, which must become almost stereotypical. This was the main reason why we have gradually imposed a sort of labor speciaization extending over as many fields and subfields as possible. If job requirements are simple, almost minimal but repetitive, the job holder will soon become a submissive and obedient machine.

“We do not want people to think too much. Thinking can become dangerous and spawn ideas that run counter to our goals. That is why we have sought to extend our control over larger and larger numbers of people, even outside work hours — in their spare time, that is. We have thus allowed technology and innovation to capture the attention of the masses through television sets, telephones and computers.

“Our idea has been hugely successful because, apart from creating addiction to these technologies, it has also given us control over the spread of information. At present, due to the characteristics of our times, information ranks first as a tool for action in the world. It is then simple to anticipate the next step: by controlling media institutions and tools, we implicitly control the content and quality of information. That is why one of our primary goals has been to gain control over the biggest print, radio and television trusts in the world.”

“Do you mean all this has been enough to gain control over the world?” Cezar asked.

“Obviously not. The communications media were only available in a limited area. That is why we needed some more methods of domination that had to be tempting to the masses. We acted like a grey eminence in support of the spread of drugs — synthetic drugs in particular. Fully aware that these drugs — together with tobacco, alcohol and coffee — can destroy the human body, we have deliberately staged so-called anti-tobacco and anti-drug campaigns, which have only increased the demand for them. We have created huge tobacco, fine beverage and coffee concerns Almost all of the presidents and owners of these business giants are venerable members of the highest-ranking lodges of our organization,” Signore Massini concluded proudly.

“All this seems to be a concerted attack on humanity,” Cezar said, pretending he had just caught on to the idea. Not at all affected by the purport of the question, the venerable one had a nonchalant reply:

“My dear, it is already difficult to control and coordinate more than six billion people You must understand that the more dispersed and confused a crowd is, the easier it is to maneuver. If, in addition, it does not go above a certain number of people then things are quite simple given the mind-control technology now available to us. Therefore, what difference do you think it makes if several million people die on a daily basis, most of them from drug-related diseases?”

Massini paused for a short while in his cynical presentation, seemingly pondering over what he would tell Cezar next.

“One of our primary goals has been to put an end to population growth. Moreover, we had to decrease world population numbers dramatically. In order to do this, we needed methods that could kill large numbers of people in a very short time. We have financed top-secret research projects for the production of deadly viruses. Some experiments have failed, but others have yielded results.”

“Results in terms of damage done naturally?”

“We must look at the issue from a practical point of view. It is the only way we can fully achieve our aims. If something or someone opposes us, he can’t hold out against us for very long. As I was telling you, our tools are never in the open. On the contrary, they come in a deeply humane cover but tap into those soft spots that we ourselves have built in to the system and are mostly unknown to the people.

“Our basic hidden source of manipulation is the constitution of a state. The making of a constitution is a real science of human psychology and manipulation, which is why we have been careful to have our representatives involved in the drafting of constitutions for the great powers of the world. Constitutions must take on a humane shape, pompous even and relatively complicated, but at the same time must encode those effective means for population control and undermining.

“Conflicts, revolutions and wars in various areas of the globe have perhaps been the most widespread method that we have created and indirectly supported over time. Armed conflicts have always been a huge source of income to us, as well as a subtle means of power-wielding across the world.

“We capitalize on any economic or social difficulty, particularly in less developed countries. Owing to our banking influence, we can operate secretly at the top level of power in the respective country and do the same with the adversary state. We never get involved in one direction as the result can be uncertain. But by enticing both camps to take action, we stand to gain no matter how their conflict might end.

“Our times lend themselves particularly to ethnic or economic conflicts. These are simple to trigger, last long and bring into play numerous other interests on the part of more powerful states. Eventually, the local conflict becomes a war among the great powers and less a national cause.

“Almost all of the big international bodies, whether they are political or military, are of Masonic origin. Our venerables are there in key positions and follow our plans to the point of precision. And, as I have told you, we are very patient. Decay eats away, slowly but surely, even the thickest tree trunk. The UN and NATO, to name only two of our most influential tools, have turned out to be most welcome decisions on our part.” (pp. 127-131)

Cinamar, Radu (2003). Transylvanian Sunrise (originally published in Romanian as Viitor cu cap de mort: in culisele puterii). Westbury, New York: Sky Books.